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Re: "Mathematica in Education and Research"

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  • From: Mike <m.HoneychurcNOSPAMh at>
  • Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 02:28:35 -0400 (EDT)
  • Organization: University of Queensland
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On 4/10/05 3:34 PM, in article dht48m$hle$1 at, "AES"
<siegman at> wrote:

> Just received the first email list-serve mailing that I can remember
> receiving from
>    Mathematica in Education and Research
>    "Volume 10 Issue number 4 is out now."
>    <>
> including the ToC and brief abstracts for that issue.  Don't know for
> sure how I got on this list, but I suspect I probably subscribed after
> seeing their List-Subscribe link:
>    <>
> in some posting on this group.
> I'd like to ask for any info anyone may have about the publication and
> distribution policies of this publication.  I was slightly interested in
> one of the articles in that issue, but when I went to the web site to
> get it, I discovered that to download a full article I'm apparently
> supposed to subscribe, at $45/year.
> I happen to be involved in the publication activities of several major
> professional societies that expend a great deal of resources in
> publishing important peer-reviewed technical journals.  Many if not most
> such journals these days are put on line _for free_ to the general
> public, in full text format, after an "embargo period" in the range of 3
> months to a year.  Some are published in this fashion from day one; and
> the trend is more and more toward free distribution of such information.
> Does MiER have such an embargo period? Or, does it have an institutional
> subscription rate?  I can only say that even with an adequate personal
> income and a substantial interest in Mathematica, the chance of my
> paying $45/year for a subscription to this particular publication is
> essentially zero -- and the chance of my urging my university to pay
> very much more than that for an institutional online subscription is
> equally small.

The previous publisher (Springer) of MiER ceased publishing the journal at
the end of 2000 because it was, in their view, unprofitable. I'm not sure
how a business is supposed to recoup costs let alone make a profit if the
goods or services they produce are free. You haven't given any information
about which professional societies provide free online articles but as a
chemist I know of none in my profession (eg. American chemical society,
royal society of chemistry ...) that do. Nothing in life is free so
ultimately free online articles would have to be funded either by society
membership fees and other revenue raising society activities or by the
generous donation of time and effort by many volunteers or both. We do not
have the luxury of either.

The previous publisher had an embargo period of 4 years. Since this is the
first year that the journal has relaunched we have not yet considered what
would be an appropriate embargo period.

Both private and institutional subscription rates were detailed on the page
in which you found the $45 rate.

The mailing list exists solely to send notification of ToC each quarter. You
can unsubscribe from the mailing list by clicking on this link:


Mike Honeychurch

Michael Honeychurch
Mathematica in Education and Research
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