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Re: V9 !!!

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  • From: John Fultz <jfultz at>
  • Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 04:56:40 -0500 (EST)
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Concerning the Input Assistant, Ctrl+K now invokes the completion menu. 
 But the completion menu comes up automatically when you need it, and 
invoking a completion is as simple as pressing Enter or Tab.  I, for 
one, didn't really use Ctrl+K all that much before, but I am using this 
all the time, now.  In observing other people use Mathematica, I see 
people getting used to using this very quickly, and it being very easy 
to adopt.  There are a few tweaks we could stand to make, yet, but it 
seems to be a big win for everyone I've seen.

Concerning templates for custom functions, believe it or not, I didn't 
see a single feedback about this during fairly extensive beta testing.  
But you haven't been the only one to raise the issue since release, and 
it's pretty high on my list of things to look into.

Concerning the color palette, I don't understand why you would say 
this.  As far as I can tell, your statement is simply wrong.  It *does* 
remember its state (which groups are open and closed) and its position 
without having to make horrifying permissions changes to your 
application install.  Since version 7 (I believe), we have been writing 
palette metadata as part of the preferences instead of writing directly 
to palette files.  Because, frankly, we are ages beyond the day when we 
could safely assume that parts of the installation can or should be 
overwritten at the file level by users.

John Fultz
jfultz at
User Interface Group
Wolfram Research, Inc.

On Dec 1, 2012, at 3:37 AM, "djmpark" <djmpark at> wrote:

> One thing that is nice is that if you have a six core machine you now =
> six parallel kernels!
> I don't know if I like the Predictive Interface very well. As many =
> know, I like to view the notebook interface as a plain piece of paper =
that I
> write on. With the New CellInsertionPointCell, and now the Predictive
> Interface it is gradually morphing into something that looks more like =
> palette. How many more doo-dads are they going to add? And the little
> buttons tend to interfere with other material on the page. Many will =
> these features, but if you don't like them you can disable them. The
> CellInsertionPointCell feature can be disable by an option for the =
> (in the Style Sheet say) CellInsertionPointCell->None. (You can get
> WolframAlpha just by typing = as the first character in a new cell.) =
And the
> Predictive Interface can be disabled by the "Show Suggestions Bar =
after last
> output" checkbox on the Preferences, Interface.
> The new Input Assistant (ShowCodeAssist in the Options) is a problem =
> package developers. Previously one could use Ctrl+K to complete an =
> and, if the function format was used as the initial portion of the =
> message, Ctrl+Shift+K would complete the entry with a labeled =
template. But
> that no longer works in package design.  On the Workbench Raw Function =
> there is a "Syntax Templates" entry and I assume this is the new way =
> entering this information. However, WRI has given ZERO information on =
how to
> enter this information and the few guesses I have tried don't work - =
> take too long to check. I think I did once ask them about it and got =
> answer. This is pretty bad treatment of developers since this is a =
> interface feature.
> They say they have new ColorData schemes, but I don't see them.
> If you want the ColorSchemes palette to remember its position and =
state, you
> will have to go into the Wolfram folders and give the user control of =
> file - at least on Windows.
> The new Vector Analysis functionality is fairly nice, extending to =
> dimensions.
> That's all I've had time to look at so far.
> David Park
> djmpark at
> From: alexxx [mailto:alexxx.magni at]
> Version 9.0.0 is here...
> anybody installed it yet? Reactions, critical bugs... ???

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