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Re: A new FrontEnd

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  • From: Leo Ditolaghi <leoditolaghi at>
  • Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 04:03:20 -0400 (EDT)
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Points taken, and especially with respect to the idea that a "Bold Greek 
Theta" symbol would likely be much easier to specify via speech rather 
than in handwriting input, or some gesture-driven interface, or palette 

The reason I said "hybrid" was to recognize that the creation of a 
reliable handwriting input method is no easy feat, and therefore there 
would need to be some other augmenting technology perhaps. Perhaps, for 
example, writing with a stylus with one hand while using a some kind of 
"wireless modifier controller" in the other, in tandem. I wonder if 
using speech to locate or edit symbols might not be too tedious to be 
practical, however.

I guess I will wait for brainwave-driven input after all, and merely 
watch what I think appear in my document. :D


> Richard Fateman <mailto:fateman at>
> Sun, Sep 9, 2012 8:04 PM
> Handwriting recognition of mathematics has a history going back to
> about 1963.  windows 7 has a math input panel.
> There are excellent reasons for this not to be in widespread use.
> Mostly it is difficult to build a good system (at least so far).
> Secondly, it is difficult to use.  You may think it is "obvious"
> but what is obvious about correcting recognition errors, which are 
> inevitable.
> An alternative, especially in these days of Siri etc, is speech
> input of mathematics.  Odd as it may seem at first, there are
> good reasons for it to be faster and more effective than handwriting,
> typing, or palettes.
> Google is your friend in tracking down information on all of these
> issues.  It may help to include "fateman" in the search.
> Mikhail Cherkasskii <mailto:macherkasskiy at>
> Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:11 AM
> Maybe it a good idea to collect some suggestions for new version of 
> FrontEnd. To be more certain I suggest to create an integrated 
> interface with tabs like Google Chrome or another CAS program. I'd 
> like to see more instruments for edit graphics and text. Debug tool 
> also welcome. The document based interface is useful, but when there 
> are more then 30 variables in your notebook, some of them is in a RAM, 
> some aren't... I prefer to have an extra tool for variable control.
> Best wishes

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