Re: A new FrontEnd
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- From: Richard Fateman <fateman at cs.berkeley.edu>
- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 02:33:09 -0400 (EDT)
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9/10/12 1:25 AM, Leo Ditolaghi wrote: > The reason I said "hybrid" was to recognize that the creation of a > reliable handwriting input method is no easy feat, and therefore there > would need to be some other augmenting technology perhaps. Perhaps, for > example, writing with a stylus with one hand while using a some kind of > "wireless modifier controller" in the other, in tandem. plus 2 more hands for the keyboard. Maybe another to hold the coffee. I wonder if > using speech to locate or edit symbols might not be too tedious to be > practical, however. saying "no" or "back" or "up" is easy/quick/ probably reliable. Eye-tracking is an old technology, but doesn't seem to be out in the consumer market. > > I guess I will wait for brainwave-driven input after all, and merely > watch what I think appear in my document. :D Most people have either experienced no significant speech input, or have had relatively poor experiences... the most reliable versions require some speaker-specific training and a restricted vocabulary. It is possible to have a large vocabulary or speaker independence. It is hard to have both. I'm not sure that brainwaves would be a step forward. > > Leo > >> Richard Fateman <mailto:fateman at cs.berkeley.edu> >> Sun, Sep 9, 2012 8:04 PM >> >> >> Handwriting recognition of mathematics has a history going back to >> about 1963. windows 7 has a math input panel. >> >> There are excellent reasons for this not to be in widespread use. >> Mostly it is difficult to build a good system (at least so far). >> Secondly, it is difficult to use. You may think it is "obvious" >> but what is obvious about correcting recognition errors, which are >> inevitable. >> >> An alternative, especially in these days of Siri etc, is speech >> input of mathematics. Odd as it may seem at first, there are >> good reasons for it to be faster and more effective than handwriting, >> typing, or palettes. >> >> Google is your friend in tracking down information on all of these >> issues. It may help to include "fateman" in the search. >> >> RJF >> >> >> Mikhail Cherkasskii <mailto:macherkasskiy at gmail.com> >> Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:11 AM >> >> Maybe it a good idea to collect some suggestions for new version of >> FrontEnd. To be more certain I suggest to create an integrated >> interface with tabs like Google Chrome or another CAS program. I'd >> like to see more instruments for edit graphics and text. Debug tool >> also welcome. The document based interface is useful, but when there >> are more then 30 variables in your notebook, some of them is in a RAM, >> some aren't... I prefer to have an extra tool for variable control. >> >> Best wishes >>
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