Re: A FullSimplify Problem
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- Subject: [mg41074] Re: A FullSimplify Problem
- From: "Dr. Wolfgang Hintze" <weh at snafu.de>
- Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 04:58:38 -0400 (EDT)
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Ted, Sorry, I made a mistake. Please ignore my previous answer. Recently, in the thread "Simplification of definite integral?" in this group I initiated a discussion on a similar problem with Integrate. Here even wrong results were produced. The problem seems to be connected to the integrand having a branch cut singularity (as e.g. Log, Sqrt have). You can study this by looking at the simplified version of your integral, viz. In[1]=Integrate[Log[1-2a x +a^2],{x,0,1}] starting with the general integral In[2]=Integrate[Log[1-2a x + a^2], x] Mathematica gives Out[2] = 2 -x + x Log[1 + a - 2 a x] + 2 2 (-1 - a ) Log[-1 - a + 2 a x] ------------------------------ 2 a In the last Log we observe a negative sign of the term, i.e. mathematica has (unmotivatedly??) moved to another branch of the Log-function. Forming the derivative of Out[2] gives back the integrand, but the derivative of the function with the positive sign under the second Log gives the same result. Hope this helps a bit. Summa summarus: mathematica seems to have a lot of difficulties here. Regards, Wolfgang Ersek, Ted R wrote: > At http://mathworld.wolfram.com/LeibnizIntegralRule.html > I learned that > Integrate[Log[1-2a Cos[x]+a^2],{x,0,Pi}] > = 2*Pi*Log[Abs[a]] > > Mathematica knows how to do this integral, but gives a much more complicated > result. Can anyone explain how to use FullSimplify and other > transformations to show that the complicated result Mathematica gives is > equivalent to the answer above? > > Thanks, > Ted Ersek > > >