Re: Re: Technical Publishing Made Easy with New Wolfram Publicon Software

*To*: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net*Subject*: [mg50292] Re: [mg50281] Re: Technical Publishing Made Easy with New Wolfram Publicon Software*From*: DrBob <drbob at bigfoot.com>*Date*: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 03:36:00 -0400 (EDT)*References*: <cg20f3$od7$1@smc.vnet.net> <cgcicp$eo7$1@smc.vnet.net> <200408241022.GAA06691@smc.vnet.net>*Reply-to*: drbob at bigfoot.com*Sender*: owner-wri-mathgroup at wolfram.com

Thanks for doing all that research for us! However, footnotes don't go at the end of a document--they go at the foot of each page. Endnotes are getting to be the new standard, but they're far less useful to a reader. Bobby On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 06:22:23 -0400 (EDT), Steve Luttrell <steve_usenet at _removemefirst_luttrell.org.uk> wrote: > I have already used Publicon to write several papers (I had a busy > weekend!). It fills in a much needed gap that Mathematica itself doesn't > cover, at least not without a great deal of additional effort on my part. As > I see it, Publicon aims to do what Scientific Word does but in a way that is > preferable to Mathematica users. > > The several papers I wrote in Publicon were translations from papers I had > already authored in Mathematica, but which I wanted to convert to a form > from which I could easily generate LaTeX (I wanted to submit them to > arXiv.org) I found that I could NOT simply read a Mathematica notebook into > Publicon and have it behave in the same way as a notebook I had created > directly in Publicon (e.g. Save As LaTeX did NOT work cleanly). However, I > did find that copying material across from a Mathematica notebook (using > Copy As Cell Expression) worked very well, but I had to do recreate the > hyperlinks (cross references) afresh within Publicon in order for them to > work correctly there. If I didn't do this then "Gather Backmatter" (which > appears to rely on the special way that Publicon creates its cross > references) did not work correctly. > > It would save me a great deal of time if I could automatically generate a > Publicon notebook from a previously generated Mathematica notebook, so that > it behaves as if it had been generated within Publicon in the first place. > Maybe it is possible to design a filter to do this conversion automatically; > this should be possible because there were only a few fairly well-defined > conversion problems I encountered, and which I fixed manually. > > I have found NO problems at all in reading a Publicon notebook using > Mathematica. However, it seems that a notebook created using Publicon knows > that it originated there, so that double-clicking on it (in Windows) fires > up Publicon rather than Mathematica (and vice versa for a notebook created > in Mathematica). > > Publicon DOES support footnotes. You do "Insert Note" followed by "Gather > Backmatter". The various footnotes (and references) are collected at the end > of the document as backmatter. If you then "Save As LaTeX" you get a TeX > file that compiles to give you the expected footnotes. > > To balance out the above positive comments I do have some criticisms. There > are some Publicon message windows that sit on top of all other windows > whatever you do to hide them. There are some characters that don't translate > to LaTeX - e.g. I had to replace \[And] by \[Intersection] to make the > exported LaTeX work correctly. I found that bold font in equations does not > survive in the exported LaTeX, so now my vectors look like scalars. My > habitual use of \[AlignmentMarker] has come home to haunt me because it is > not translated to the (obvious) box form in LaTeX, so the exported LaTeX > does not compile correctly. However, all of these problems are either benign > or else manually fixable. > > Anyway, my overall impression of Publicon is very positive. It has a way to > go to equal Scientific Word (which has been around for a while now), but the > basic framework is already there in Publicon, and is very extensible via > custom style sheets to define your own ways of generating LaTeX for > instance; this sort of customisation is easy for someone who is already > familiar with Mathematica's style sheets. I have already used this to create > custom bibliography styles in the exported LaTeX; it works exactly as > advertised. > > I hope that Publicon is subsumed into a future release of Mathematica, so > that Mathematica (Publicon) is analogous to a souped up version of > Scientific WorkPlace (Scientific Word) - check out > http://www.sciword.demon.co.uk/ to see what I mean. This would avoid the > time taken to convert from a Mathematica-authored notebook to something that > works correctly in Publicon. > > Steve Luttrell > > "Bobby R. Treat" <drbob at bigfoot.com> wrote in message > news:cgcicp$eo7$1 at smc.vnet.net... >> This appears to be an elaborate waste of binary bits. >> >> Rather than make Mathematica do pagination right (and a few other >> simple things), they made a new stand-alone LaTex derivative with no >> computational capability. >> >> MUCH of the content I'd likely put into Publicon, if I used it, would >> originate in Mathematica. But conversion is a one-way street. >> >> Note that Publicon doesn't support footnotes; something every word >> processor does do, and something every technical document needs. >> >> On the PLUS side, it's cheap--except in terms of the learning curve. >> The online tour makes using it look very involved. >> >> Bobby >> >> newsdesk at wolfram.com (Wolfram Research) wrote in message > news:<cg20f3$od7$1 at smc.vnet.net>... >> > Technical Publishing Made Easy with New Wolfram Publicon >> > Software >> > >> > Wolfram Publicon, a powerful new publishing tool based on the >> > underlying document technology of Mathematica, is now available >> > to purchase as a download for Windows and Mac OS X. >> > >> > Created for the growing number of academic researchers, >> > students, and industry professionals who need to create >> > precisely formatted technical documents in XML and other >> > structured data formats, Publicon incorporates many exciting >> > features including inline math and chemistry typesetting, >> > publisher-specific style sheets, and a scrolling WYSIWYG >> > interface ideal for online presentation. >> > >> > With Publicon, users can compose more engaging technical >> > documents that intuitively incorporate complex scientific >> > research. Mathematica users will especially appreciate >> > Publicon's unique ability to understand and identify math. All >> > Mathematica work, including dynamic 2D and 3D plots, can be >> > pasted directly into Publicon documents. Publicon will preserve >> > the mathematical content so the work may be evaluated at any >> > time in Mathematica. >> > >> > Heralded as a "major advance" by Open Access publisher BioMed >> > Central, Publicon was built to take the guesswork and hassle out >> > of formatting technical documents for publication. Combining >> > ease of use with cutting-edge technology, Publicon is the first >> > choice for composing structured technical documents for >> > electronic or print publication. >> > >> > For more information, please visit: >> > http://www.wolfram.com/publicon >> > > > > -- DrBob at bigfoot.com www.eclecticdreams.net

**References**:**Re: Technical Publishing Made Easy with New Wolfram Publicon Software***From:*"Steve Luttrell" <steve_usenet@_removemefirst_luttrell.org.uk>