Re: Re: Re: Re: typesetting fractions

*To*: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net*Subject*: [mg45726] Re: [mg45697] Re: [mg45644] Re: [mg45590] Re: [mg45555] typesetting fractions*From*: Selwyn Hollis <sh2.7183 at misspelled.erthlink.net>*Date*: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:37:28 -0500 (EST)*References*: <200401201008.FAA27408@smc.vnet.net>*Sender*: owner-wri-mathgroup at wolfram.com

On Jan 20, 2004, at 5:08 AM, John Fultz wrote: > I didn't reply to this thread earlier because I figured one of the > usual > experts would pick it up and run with it, but it appears not. By > reading > Selwyn's answer, I think he knows how to do this but decided to vent > about > the method rather than explain it. What, me vent? I could show you venting, but I won't. The real issue here is why this design flaw has persisted from version 3.0 to version 5.0. It is clearly an example of sheer corner-cutting. There is no typographical rationale whatsoever for treating numerators and denominators of fractions the same way as subscripts and superscripts. For example, what if I want to have ScriptSizeMultipliers->1 in a fraction that contains subexpressions with superscripts? Then the superscripts are the same size as the bases to which they are attached, and the whole thing looks silly -- thus I have go in and do a lot of meticulous tweaking. Again, I could be missing something and have wasted countless hours in trying to make many hundreds of pages worthy of publication. But maybe it's my own fault for dreaming that I could approach TeX-like quality with Mathematica. ----- Selwyn Hollis http://www.math.armstrong.edu/faculty/hollis (edit reply-to to reply) > In the Option Inspector is an option called ScriptSizeMultipliers. > This, > combined with the ScriptMinSize, determines sizing for fractions and > scripts (sorry, Selwyn). The easiest way to do what Murray and Sabit > want > is to set the ScriptSizeMultipliers option to 1. This could be set at > the > notebook or global level, as you feel appropriate, or wrapped > individually > around fractions if you don't want sub/superscripts to pick up the > option > value. > > To answer Sabit's second question, select the bracket of the cell you'd > like to change, and use the Option Inspector to set the > SingleLetterItalics > option to False at the selection scope. > > Sincerely, > > John Fultz > jfultz at wolfram.com > User Interface Group > Wolfram Research, Inc. > > > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 19:58:02 -0500 (EST), Murray Eisenberg wrote: >> I quite agree that this is an annoyance with Mahematica's typsetting >> of >> mathematics. >> >> An underlying difficulty is that there is no separate notion of >> "display >> math" -- mathematical expressions displayed on separate lines -- as >> opposed to math within normal paragraphs of text. This may be an >> unfortunate front-end design limitation. >> >> The problem is reminiscent of the same problem in LaTeX, where >> in-line, >> built-up fractions (and other constructs) have their components small. >> But in LaTeX, there is an option (which one needs to apply to each >> instance) to make such in-line math "displaystyle", which enlarges the >> components to the same large size as if they were in a display. >> >> I devoutly wish there were such a capability in Mathematica -- >> whether a >> per-instance option as with LaTeX, or a global option for a notebook. >> >> Selwyn Hollis wrote: >> >>> My understanding is that the size of fractions is determined by the >>> same option that determines the size of subscripts and superscripts, >>> which is highly unfortunate. I could be wrong about this; if so I'd >>> love to find out. I find it a major pain in the neck always to have >>> to >>> increase the size of fractions manually. Maybe this is an improvement >>> we can hope for in version 6.0. >>> >>> ----- >>> Selwyn Hollis >>> http://www.math.armstrong.edu/faculty/hollis >>> (edit reply-to to reply) >>> >>> On Jan 14, 2004, at 1:26 AM, sabit wrote: >>> >>>> I am trying to do some typesetting with mathematica. I noticed that >>>> in >>>> some styles fractions are set in reduced point size. What is the >>>> option that would fix this? I want both denominator and the >>>> numerator >>>> set in the same size as the text. >>>> >>>> Also I have the single letter italic enabled for cells where I have >>>> the equations but in the cells where there is a lot of text I don't >>>> want this option. Now I copy and paste a previous cell and use it as >>>> new cell but I am sure there is a better way, probably with styles. >>>> Wolfram site lists two documents about typesetting but they are not >>>> available to download. Does anyone know a good reference for >>>> tpesetting with mathematica? > > >

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