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Re: Re: Do Mathematica applications EVER get updated?

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  • Subject: [mg66253] Re: [mg66223] Re: Do Mathematica applications EVER get updated?
  • From: Andrzej Kozlowski <akoz at mimuw.edu.pl>
  • Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 05:03:29 -0400 (EDT)
  • References: <e36vlj$n8n$1@smc.vnet.net> <e39ksi$cus$1@smc.vnet.net> <200605040921.FAA09579@smc.vnet.net>
  • Sender: owner-wri-mathgroup at wolfram.com

It seems to me you should distinguish products developed in-house by  
Wolfram Research from those authored and maintained by independent  
developers (such as Jens) and only sold by WRI.

It is very easy to find out who develops The Digital Image Processing  
package or MathGL3d: for example by writing to this list ...

Andrzej Kozlowski


On 4 May 2006, at 18:21, Nasser Abbasi wrote:

>
> "Jens-Peer Kuska" <kuska at informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote in message
> news:e39ksi$cus$1 at smc.vnet.net...
>> Hi,
>>
>> why not ask the individual developer ??
>
> I have never heard of a customer having to look for and ask individual
> developers inside a company about product updates.
>
> For example, if the next MS word version gets delayed, do you pick  
> up the
> phone and dial 1800 Microsoft and ask to please talk to the  
> developer of MS
> word to ask him/her about the status of the application?
>
> Do you have the phone number of the developer for the VISTA  
> operating system
> because I need to call him/her to ask when it will be released.
>
> Do you have a list of phone numbers I can call to find who is the  
> developer
> to each one of the listed Mathematica packages?
>
> This must be a new method of doing business that I have not heard  
> of before.
>
>> At least for my package I can tell you that I'm
>> working on the next version and it should be
>> finished at the end of the year.
>>
>> The Digital Image Processing package is also active
>> developed and I'm sure the Mariusz Jankowski is
>> working on the next version.
>>
>
> How do you know that? how do customers know this? Where is this  
> listed on
> the web site for the DIP product?
> http://www.wolfram.com/products/applications/digitalimage/
>
> I do not see any name of developer there or any email address or  
> any phone
> numbers.
>
> If you know some internal information such as the above, then this  
> does not
> mean the public knows this as well.
>
> This is NOT how software business should work.
>
>> Regards
>>   Jens
>>
>> Nasser Abbasi wrote:
>>> Is it worth buying more Mathematica applications?
>>>
>>> I am asking, because it seems these applications are hardly ever  
>>> being
>>> updated.
>>>
>>> Look at the structural mechanics application
>>>
>>> http://documents.wolfram.com/applications/structural/index.html
>>>
>>> It is still version 1, and the copyright shows it was published  
>>> in 1999.
>>> This is 7 years ago !! This is like a million years ago in computer
>>> software
>>> time.
>>>
>>> The control systems application
>>> http://documents.wolfram.com/applications/control/FrontMatter/ 
>>> 0.2.html
>>>
>>> Still at version 2.2 since January 2003. This is 4 years ago  
>>> without any
>>> single update.
>>>
>>> The Signals and Systems application
>>> http://www.wolfram.com/products/applications/signals/
>>>
>>> Still at version 1.2.1 from 1995 (this is 11 years ago).
>>>
>>> And I can go on and on.
>>>
>>> Another big problem is that it is almost impossible to figure what
>>> version
>>> number these application are at and when was the last version  
>>> released.
>>> It
>>> is as if this is intentionally kept hidden.  Look at the mechanical
>>> system
>>> package
>>>
>>> http://www.wolfram.com/products/applications/mechsystems/
>>>
>>> It says at the top "NEW VERSION". but no version number or when  
>>> was this
>>> version released. When you scroll to the bottom of the page, it says
>>> mechanical system 2. Then it says 1994-2005.  Whatever this is  
>>> supposed
>>> to
>>> mean is anyone's guess.
>>>
>>> Can any one from the company explain all of this?
>>>
>>> I was about to buy the structural mechanics package, but last  
>>> minute when
>>> I
>>> checked the date on it, and that it was still version 1 since  
>>> 1999, I
>>> closed
>>> the window and did not buy it. It is clear that there are many dead
>>> applications that are not being maintained and are still being  
>>> sold to
>>> customers.
>>>
>>> Nasser
>>>
>>
>


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