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Re: Re: Presentations Package Announcement

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  • Subject: [mg84066] Re: [mg84047] Re: Presentations Package Announcement
  • From: DrMajorBob <drmajorbob at>
  • Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 05:47:03 -0500 (EST)
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Three points:

1) Everybody -- and I do mean !!!EVERYBODY!!! -- needs to see the  
presentation linked below.

2) Definitely, David Park's package should be licensed and integrated into  
the base product.

3) Microsoft never made reliability and security a major focus... unless  
you mean their own security.


On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 02:13:50 -0600, sdw <nospam.warwick at> wrote:

> point is,  graphics and presentation construction capability had been
> considered a core strength of Mathematica for as long as I can remember,
> and yet functions that many of us would consider fundamental are only  
> found as
> add-ons with varying levels of support and extra cost.  I believe
> Wolfram should look more globally at what people are doing with
> mathematical graphics and do a much better job of reducing the
> requirements for folks to either a: reinvent the wheel or b: purchase
> extra packages.    If that means that they license Mr. Park's code and
> integrate the functionality directly, perhaps that is a good solution.
> for an example of extraordinary graphics,  take a look at the following
> presentation:
> I think we all know that capability and usability are two different
> things.  I often wonder how many hours people have to spend to get the
> results they do when using Mathematica - what percentage coding,  
> debugging, etc.
> before getting meaningful results,  especially in larger projects that
> include text and graphics, along with developing the calculation  
> strategies.
> I wish that the measure wolfram used to include new functions was more
> usability based - designed to reduce time to construct common tasks,
> reduce keystrokes,  etc.  As a interesting measure, I wish that when
> people posted to the demomstrations project that they also included an
> honest indication of the time spent to develop / release their code.
> for a system as diverse and complex as Mathematica,  usability would  
> seem to be
> as big a shift in focus as was reliability and security was for
> Microsoft a few years ago.
> on another note,  I am also deeply appreciative of the level on online
> support wolfram gives to this newsgroup.  The Mathematica organization  
> is full
> of very wise and gifted people.

DrMajorBob at

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