Re: What should be a simple task....

*To*: mathgroup at smc.vnet.net*Subject*: [mg100668] Re: [mg100654] What should be a simple task....*From*: "David Park" <djmpark at comcast.net>*Date*: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:12:06 -0400 (EDT)*References*: <30526967.1244628476411.JavaMail.root@n11>

Kristin, I want to apologize at the start because I am not directly answering your problem (I hope you will get a simple effective solution, probably from one of my favorite guys at WRI.), and what I say may sound a little critical - but I hope not of you. There has been a long-time running discussion, mainly between me and "AES", on MathGroup concerning how Mathematica should be used. I think that Mathematica should be used not only for calculations but also as a communications medium. One should stay in Mathematica all the way. AES believes one should only do basic mathematical calculations and plots in Mathematica (which it would specialize in) and export everything to other media for publication or communication. And, in fact, I suspect that most users do it his way. But there are quite a few complaints about problems in exporting Mathematica output to other media that appear in this newsgroup. This process actually takes quite a bit of special knowledge. We even see such problems posted by people we know to be quite sophisticated users of Mathematica. So why not stay in Mathematica in the first place? It's capabilities for presenting technical information are immensely superior to any static or semi-static medium such as PowerPoint. Why not convince the recipients of your information that it is better to spend your time on the technical problems, than on the problems of converting to a vastly inferior medium that serves their interests less well? If one of the reasons is that they don't have Mathematica then it is all the more reason that WRI and everyone else would benefit from a free and easily obtained Mathematica PlayerPro. David Park djmpark at comcast.net http://home.comcast.net/~djmpark/ From: Nelson-Patel, Kristin [mailto:knp at ll.mit.edu] Hi :) I am an analyst (applied physics and math) who has to present all of my work in Power Point briefings, sometimes on paper, sometimes electronically. I vastly prefer working in Mathematica to another system; however, I'm currently ham strung by my inability to transfer simple plots from Mathematica 7 to Power Point 2007 in a way that looks decent. In previous versions of both, I was able to Copy As: Metafile by right clicking on the plot in Mathematica and Paste Special: Metafile in Power Point, and all would be well (Ok, I had to tweak line thickness settings and fonts in my plots to make them survive the transfer, but that was fine). Now, I have select the whole cell rather than just the plot to get the Copy As: metafile option, and I have to go all the way to the menu bar to do it (no longer an option on the right click). Fine, I can deal with that, but I can't deal with the fact that my simple plots look completely ratty now upon pasting into Power Point. There's all this stair stepping in curves which should be smooth. I've played with the PlotPoints option-no effect. I've exported into different form ats with varying ImageResolution and imported; Either the fonts get screwed up or it looks even worse or there's ugly aliasing or no effect on the stair stepping. I've exported to PDF and snapshot-copied from there; The curves look good, but now the whole image is just a little bit blurry/soft, a little too much to pass muster with my supervisors and sponsors. I'm really getting frustrated now, have spent way too much time on what *was* a solved problem before my "upgrades", and beginning to suspect that the problem is some import or paste/display setting in Power Point that I can't reach. I really don't want to have two different briefings for electronic vs. paper presentation, but I'm a little concerned that's where this is heading, or I'm going to have to use the other system to make my plots. Which would bea shame. Has anyone figured this one out yet? Help, please-I'm crying uncle. This is one of those stupid simple problems that also happens to be quite fundamental to the ability to make good use of Mathematica. -Kristin

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