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  • Subject: [mg110763] SyntaxInformation Question
  • From: "E. Martin-Serrano" <eMartinSerrano at telefonica.net>
  • Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 06:02:37 -0400 (EDT)

Hi,



In the ref/SyntaxInformation in the Help there is the following example or
explanation can be found:



"f can have any number of arguments, but each should be a two-element list:"




SyntaxInformation[f] = {"ArgumentsPattern" -> {{_, _} ...}};



{f[{x, y}, {a, b}], f[x, {a, b}, {x, y, z}]};



In the first part of the example: 'f[{x, y}, {a, b}]', the list  =91{x, y}' is
a two - elements list, so is '{a, b}', then syntax constrain holds and it is
understandable for me.



In the second part of the example: 'f[x, {a, b}, {x, y, z}]', the symbol '
x=92 evaluates to a list but not necessarily to a 'two - elements list' as
demanded in the SyntaxInformation[f] = {"ArgumentsPattern" -> {{_, _} ...}}
declaration. According to the scarce explanation in the example it is not
excluded for 'x' to evaluate to a '12 - elements list=92 {x, y}'; however the
syntax constrain allows it to pass; following with the example the list '
{a, b}' is again a two - elements list, so it pass the check. But finally
'{x, y, z}' is a three elements list but it is allowed to pass the constrain
too; and so do {v, x, y, z}, and {u, v, x, y, z}, and any list of whatever
any other length as this {f[{x, y}, {a, b}], f[x, {a, b},
Sequence@@Array[x&, 100]]}.



In the example



Options[f]={aaa->1,bbb->2,ccc -> 4};



SyntaxInformation[f]={"ArgumentsPattern"->{_,_,OptionsPattern[]}};



The syntax specification allows for two parameters and a list of options to
be submitted to the function =91f[]=92.



The following does work as expected since the following is allowed to pass
it is right since just two parameters and a list of options are submitted as
specified)



f[x,y, aaa->2,bbb->3,ccc ->4];



But the following is allowed to pass too, despite, in this case, 6
parameters *x, y, z, k, l, m* (plus the options) are submitted instead of
just the two specified parameters.



f[x, y, z, k, l, m, aaa->2,bbb->3,ccc->4];



When I say they pass, I mean nothing is colored red saying that something is
syntactically wrong and must be corrected..



I am certainly missing something important here and, clearly I do not
understand the explanation given to this very basic programming command. So
I would appreciate any clarification or help from the group.



Or maybe Wolfram should provide a complete tutorial on it or a clearer
explanation.



This occurs  in version 7.0.1. for Windows XP SP3.



E. Martin-Serrano





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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>In the =
ref/SyntaxInformation
in the Help there is the following example or explanation can be =
found:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'>&quot;</span></font><span
class=MathematicaFormatStandardForm><font =
face=Courier>f</font></span> can have
any number of arguments, but each should be a two-element list:&quot; =
<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'>SyntaxInformation[f] =
{&quot;ArgumentsPattern&quot; -&gt; {{_, _} =
...}};<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>{f[{x, y}, {a, =
b}], f[x,
{a, b}, {x, y, z}]};<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal =
style='margin-right:-.5in;text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>In the first =
part of the
example: 'f[{x, y}, {a, b}]', the list  &#8216;{x, y}' is a two - =
elements
list, so is '{a, b}', then syntax constrain holds and it is =
understandable for
me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal =
style='margin-right:-.25in;text-autospace:none'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>In the second =
part of the
example: 'f[x, {a, b}, {x, y, z}]', the symbol ' x&#8217; evaluates to a =
list
but not necessarily to a 'two - elements list' as demanded in the =
SyntaxInformation[f]
= {&quot;ArgumentsPattern&quot; -&gt; {{_, _} ...}} declaration. =
According to
the scarce explanation in the example it is not excluded for 'x' to =
evaluate to
a '12 - elements list&#8217; {x, y}'; however the syntax constrain =
allows it to
pass; following with the example the list ' {a, b}' is again a two - =
elements
list, so it pass the check. But finally '{x, y, z}' is a three elements =
list
but it is allowed to pass the constrain too; and so do {v, x, y, z}, and =
{u, v,
x, y, z}, and any list of whatever any other length as this {f[{x, y}, =
{a, b}],
f[x, {a, b}, Sequence@@Array[x&amp;, =
100]]}.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>In the example =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Options[f]={aaa-&gt;1,bbb-&gt;2,ccc
-&gt; 4};<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'>SyntaxInformation[f]={&quot;ArgumentsPattern=
&quot;-&gt;{_,_,OptionsPattern[]}};
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The syntax =
specification allows
for two parameters and a list of options to be submitted to the function
&#8216;f[]&#8217;.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The following =
does work
as expected since the following is allowed to pass it is right since =
just two
parameters and a list of options are submitted as =
specified)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=ES =
style='font-size:12.0pt'>f[x,y,
aaa-&gt;2,bbb-&gt;3,ccc -&gt;4];<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=ES =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>But the =
following is
allowed to pass too, despite, in this case, 6 parameters *x, y, z, k, l, =
m* (plus
the options) are submitted instead of just the two specified =
parameters.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=ES style='font-size:12.0pt'>f[x, =
y, z, k, l,
m, aaa-&gt;2,bbb-&gt;3,ccc-&gt;4];<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span lang=ES =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>When I say =
they pass, I
mean nothing is colored red saying that something is syntactically wrong =
and
must be corrected.. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am certainly =
missing
something important here and, clearly I do not understand the =
explanation given
to this very basic programming command. So I would appreciate any =
clarification
or help from the group.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Or maybe Wolfram should provide a complete tutorial on it or a =
clearer
explanation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:
12.0pt'>This occurs  in version 7.0.1. for Windows XP =
SP3.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span =
style='font-size:
12.0pt'>E. Martin-Serrano<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span =
style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>___________________________________________________</s=
pan></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span =
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