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Re: Aligning graphics on frame boundaries

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• From: Vince Virgilio <blueschi at gmail.com>
• Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:39:03 -0500 (EST)
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I think we need a visual guide for the various size-like options, across the commands that take them. One page of the visual guide for each kind of usage; all the better if a single page will do. If it was given enough weight at WRI, it could serve as a sanity check for new plot commands.

Vince

On Monday, January 14, 2013 11:27:36 PM UTC-5, James Stein wrote:
> Vince:
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> I agree with your comments and suggestions.
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> However, the situation is worse that you suggest.
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> The interactions between ImageSize, FrameSize and their associated
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> implicit paddings is incompletely documented,
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> and is documented as if the documented behavior is independent of the
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> kind of Graphics involved, which is is not.
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> By coincidence, I reported this problem here on the MathGroup just a
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> few days ago, showing that 'Frame' acts differently upon ListPlot and
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> DateListPlot:
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> Clear[f, i3, g, d3];
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> d3 = {{{2012, 1, 1}, 1}, {{2012, 2, 1}, 2}, {{2012, 3, 1}, 3}};
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> i3 = d3[[All, 2]];
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> Print["d3=", d3 // MatrixForm, "  i3=", i3];
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> f[b_] := ListPlot[i3, Frame -> b] // Framed;
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> g[b_] := DateListPlot[d3, Frame -> b] // Framed;
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> {{f[True], f[False]}, {g[True], g[False]}}
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> Three of the four results are the same size; the lower right result is
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> smaller than the others:
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> It seems that applying a Frame, or not, does not change the size of a
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> plot produced by ListPlot, but does change the size of a plot produced
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> by DateListPlot.
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> I seek an explanation for this behavior.
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> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Vince Virgilio wrote:
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> > On Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:51:10 PM UTC-5, Bruce Shore wrote:
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> >> I would like to align, within GraphicsColumn, two or more plots on the=
ir
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> >>
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> >> frame boundaries, using Mathematica 7. Back in Jan 2008 this question
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> >>
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> >> was raised by  Szabolcs Horv=E1t, so maybe it is answered, but I do =
not
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> >>
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> >> find  the answer in the archives, only the question.
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >> My question is the same as his: I have two or more plots, with differe=
nt
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> >>
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> >> aspect ratios or with different labels, so the images are not the same
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> >>
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> >> size. I want to align the left and right right sides of the frames in =
a
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> >>
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> >> GraphicsColumn. I use ImagePadding but this is very clumsy and has to =
be
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> >>
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> >> redone for every set of frames. Mathematica uses, for all its sizings,
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> >>
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> >> the complete outline of the figure, with labels and so on, not just th=
e
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> >>
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> >> frame. For publications the frames have to be aligned.
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> >>
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> > [cut]
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> >
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> > This has always been awkward to do. Though the ImagePadding approach ma=
y suffice for many cases, it works at the wrong level of abstraction.
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> >
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> > WRI should consider a new Alignment option value of "Axes", "Frame", or=
 "PlotRegion" in the Column and Grid family of commands.
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> >
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> > Vince
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> >

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